A conversation between the European Commission, the Italian institutions, and the national innovation system. Meeting with Paolo Casalino, Director General for Industrial Policy at the Ministry of Enterprises and Made in Italy, and Marco Taisch, President of MICS – Made in Italy Circular and Sustainable, Giampaolo Manzella, senior advisor Gruppo BEI. Moderated by Filomena Greco, journalist for Il Sole 24 Ore.